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Old Apr 06, 2010, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #1
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I am in the process of buying the ASUS G73JH-A1. My questions are:

-Does anyone have the ATI Radeon HD5870 1024MB PCI-E GDDR5 Dx11?

-If so have you ever had driver issues with it or crashing issues?

I've read mixed reviews so I figured I would bring it to the GWGuru community.

Thanks!
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Old Apr 08, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57   #2
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that's an excellent video card, just install the latest drivers from ati's website and you should be good to go with it.
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Old Apr 17, 2010, 11:59 PM // 23:59   #3
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I run the HD 5770.

I did have the common problem which is also found on the 5870, this little bug being your mouse pointer will expand and be like 10x bigger than normal, and if you maximize youtube videos your pc crashes.

Tryed everything people mentioned, updated bios, drivers, radeon drivers, nothing worked.

When i switched motherboards however, everything is fine now.

Both mobos were MSI btw (I've read complaints about it happening with asus boards also). I had the problem with a DDR2 mobo, and the DDR3 mobo is fine with the newer card, that may be where the problem lies, I don't exactly know tbh.
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Old Apr 18, 2010, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #4
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i had to rma mine that i bought i did a search and found the 5000 series had a few problems must of had a bad batch get shipped out or something... im still waiting on my new card but i bought another for a different computer and had no problem with it. i had the problem in all games and tried it in three different computer running different o.s.'s. i tried about 5 different versions of drivers on three machines. my new card i bought is super
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Old Apr 18, 2010, 02:27 AM // 02:27   #5
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i had to rma mine that i bought i did a search and found the 5000 series had a few problems must of had a bad batch get shipped out or something... im still waiting on my new card but i bought another for a different computer and had no problem with it. i had the problem in all games and tried it in three different computer running different o.s.'s. i tried about 5 different versions of drivers on three machines. my new card i bought is super
As for me, my problem is obviously not the card.

It was the card mixed with something, that I am unsure what that something exactly is.

Had problems with the same exact card on the DDR2 MSI mobo, switched to DDR3 MSI mobo, using the same exact card, the problems I had are completely gone.
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I've had many driver issues with my 5870. Flickering, broken picture on my TV via an HDMI to DVI connection, inability to overclock thanks to 2D instability (but perfectly fine in 3D), photoshop crashing with video card acceleration enabled (Stream is a piece of shit technology that shouldn't even be advertised as a feature).

The HD5870 is a great gaming card... that's it. It can't do anything else constructive outside gaming. It can push great numbers in triple A titles, and it's very cool running/power friendly... but when you actually desire to use it for anything beyond gaming, you'd have a safer bet jumping off a cliff.

Avivo video converter is a sick and twisted practical joke, Stream is just hilariously bad, and OpenCL acceleration is.... I don't even think it works...

So, that in mind: If you are just gaming, the HD5xxx series are great cards (especially the 5850s in Crossfire).... but, if you plan to actually use the card for additional goodies, forget it; just buy a GTX470/480 (assuming you can find one in stock, which is another joke...) and be done with it. Oh, of course, this assumes you have a case with amazing cooling or liquid cooling since both the GTX 470 and 480 are thermonuclear reactors.
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Old Apr 18, 2010, 09:04 AM // 09:04   #7
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I've had many driver issues with my 5870. Flickering, broken picture on my TV via an HDMI to DVI connection, inability to overclock thanks to 2D instability (but perfectly fine in 3D), photoshop crashing with video card acceleration enabled (Stream is a piece of shit technology that shouldn't even be advertised as a feature).

The HD5870 is a great gaming card... that's it. It can't do anything else constructive outside gaming. It can push great numbers in triple A titles, and it's very cool running/power friendly... but when you actually desire to use it for anything beyond gaming, you'd have a safer bet jumping off a cliff.

Avivo video converter is a sick and twisted practical joke, Stream is just hilariously bad, and OpenCL acceleration is.... I don't even think it works...

So, that in mind: If you are just gaming, the HD5xxx series are great cards (especially the 5850s in Crossfire).... but, if you plan to actually use the card for additional goodies, forget it; just buy a GTX470/480 (assuming you can find one in stock, which is another joke...) and be done with it. Oh, of course, this assumes you have a case with amazing cooling or liquid cooling since both the GTX 470 and 480 are thermonuclear reactors.
Are you running DDR2 by any chance?

I was having all kinds of problems with this card before I switched PC's it was just kind of upsetting (both ran windows 7 64bit).
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Old Apr 18, 2010, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #8
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Are you running DDR2 by any chance?

I was having all kinds of problems with this card before I switched PC's it was just kind of upsetting (both ran windows 7 64bit).
No... DDR3 1600, with very very tight timings and turboed to 1866. Has nothing to do with my RAM, everything to do with the poor excuse for drivers that ATi puts out, created by chimps.

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I was trying to see if I could find a pattern with DDR2 Motherboards and the newer cards.

Oddly enough i am using the same drivers also, and having no issues like before.

It had to be conflicting with something I am thinking.
ATi is well known for having absolutely worthless drivers for anything beyond gaming. Tons of quirks in 2D mode, Crossfire issues are just silly, etc etc. They fix some issues, and new ones crop up.

Add in that they don't support Linux, and it's just a sad sad situation.

Here's how I look at it these days:


ATi's Junk:
  • Gaming only: ATi has great hardware, great drivers
  • Gaming + multitasking: ATi has great hardware, mediocre drivers
  • Gaming + multitasking + extended GPU compute usage: ATi has mediocre hardware except at the very high end, and shitty drivers
  • Linux: LOL

nVidia's Junk:

  • Gaming only: nVidia has mediocre (thanks to heat + price) hardware, mediocre drivers.
  • Gaming + Multitasking: nVidia has decent hardware, decent drivers
  • Gaming + multitasking + extended GPU compute usage: nVidia has amazing hardware, amazing drivers/features.
  • Linux: Very decent support, but in short, yes.

That said, it becomes a question of, "What do you plan to use your PC for, or what's most important in daily use to you?"
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